Stop Me If You’ve Heard This One Before

Recently, Fred Edgecomb, who has been affiliated with both the NRA and its state affiliate, the NC Rifle & Pistol Assoc., was heard claiming credit for passing Senate Bill 41 to repeal NC purchase permits and expand concealed carry into churches sponsoring schools. GRNC members should understand that neither NRA nor NCRPA had any apparent role in passing SB 41. NRA lobbyist DJ Spiker only showed up at the last minute, and we are unaware of any significant action by NCRPA. In truth, it was GRNC volunteers who sent alerts, packed committee meetings, walked legislative hallways, and deluged legislators with input. [More]

Some might call that SOP

The latest GRNC alert requesting support to pass permitless carry is out. All I have is their email and my WoG Placeholder blog didn’t display html right. If I see a working link from GRNC anytime soon I will update this post so those interested can go to where they can see and click on action items.

UPDATE

See comment.

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David Codrea is a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

5 thoughts on “Stop Me If You’ve Heard This One Before”

  1. I just got an email from the NRA claiming they shouldered the lion’s share of the work. I’m a member of GRNC and I never quit my NRA life membership. I know who contacted me and when. The NRA is lying!

    1. Here’s the most recent and detailed explanation of the history of the NC PPP Repeal:

      Grass Roots North Carolina
      April 20, 2023
      Gun Rights Supporters:

      The failing NRA, in a desperate bid for relevance, recently made a veiled accusation against GRNC, claiming “…some other 2A groups in the state have instead continued to focus on seeking credit for the legislative victory. At least one group has gone so far as to try claiming exclusive responsibility for the passage and veto override of SB41.” Below are NRA claims, followed by the truth.

      Myth:
      The NRA claims GRNC was the first group to claim credit for Senate Bill 41.

      Truth:
      GRNC was not the one who first claimed credit, it was Fred Edgecomb, a past president of the NRA-affiliated NC Rifle & Pistol Assoc., who was heard to claim credit at a recent IDPA match. We merely responded by setting the record straight.

      Myth:
      The NRA-ILA alert claimed that GRNC “dismiss[ed] over a decade of legislative repeal efforts by NRA members, gun owners, and other 2A groups.”

      Truth:
      The first purchase permit repeal was negotiated by GRNC, Sen. Buck Newton, and the Republican-led NC Senate in 2013 and was included as part of HB 937, an omnibus bill which contained, amongother things, restaurant carry. Because the Senate considerably strengthened the weak bill firstpassed by the NC House, it had to return to the House for a concurrence vote. Unfortunately, NRA-endorsed Governor Pat McCrory threatened to veto the bill if it contained the purchase permit repeal, causing the repeal to be stripped out in conference committee.

      Next, in 2021, GRNC worked with Rep. Jay Adams to alter his bill, HB 398, by substituting language for a full purchase permit repeal. We also worked closely with then-NC Sheriffs Association President Dave Mahoney to get NCSA to endorse the repeal and got the bill passed by both chambers before Gov. Roy Cooper vetoed it.

      This year, GRNC worked closely with Sens. Danny Britt, Warren Daniel, and Jim Perry to ensure that the SB 41 not only cleared both chambers, but did so without contaminating amendments. For the override vote, we hammered thousands of robocalls and automated text messages into the districts of Democrats who had voted for the bill.

      Meanwhile, bill sponsors and other legislators I have asked reported no contact from the NRA lobbyist, DJ Spiker. The NRA was so utterly out of the loop that, at one point, it issued an alert which wrongly described the contents of a gun bill that had been changed in a previous committee meeting. In fact, in videos GRNC made this year of committee hearings on gun bills, you will see only GRNC testifying to the committees, not NRA and not NCRPA.

      Finally, GRNC worked for nearly two decades to insert into the public consciousness the phrase “our Jim Crow-era purchase permit law” – a strategy we worked out after reading about the origins of the law in Dave Kopel’s book, ”The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy: Should America Adopt the Gun Controls of Other Democracies?”

      Myth:
      That the NRA is “push[ing] for constitutional carry.”

      Truth:
      North Carolina’s first permitless carry bill (then called “Vermont carry”) was introduced by Sen. Hugh Webster in 1997 as SB 810 at the behest of GRNC and GOA. We actually went as far as filing a discharge petition when Democrat Marc Basnight refused the bill a hearing. At around this time, we heard reports from gun rights groups in other states that NRA lobbyists were actively sabotaging permitless carry bills. This year, we are working closely with bill sponsor Rep. Keith Kidwell on HB 189, “NC Constitutional Carry Act.” We are unaware of any effort by the NRA on the bill. Frankly, it would be nice if the NRA did something on the bill, since the May 4 crossover deadline is fast approaching.

      In closing, it’s bad enough that the NRA, consumed by its inner strife and reportedly declining membership, has been AWOL from the past two sessions of the General Assembly. Worse, however, is when the organization, facing legal challenges due to alleged corruption, siphons off resources from the group that is actually doing the heavy lifting.

      Please help ensure that doesn’t happen by going to: grnc.org/join-grnc/contribute

      With your help, all-volunteer Grass Roots North Carolina will continue its 29-year history of success.

      Armatissimi e liberissimi,

      F. Paul Valone
      President, Grass Roots North Carolina
      Executive Director, Rights Watch International
      Radio host, Guns, Politics and Freedom
      Author, Rules for ANTI-Radicals: A Practical Handbook for Defeating Leftism

  2. The NRA did not do anything! The pistol permit repeal was 100% Grass Roots NC, and that’s why my donation money goes to Grass Roots NC and GOA. I haven’t given the NRA any money in years, yet they still send the stupid fundraiser letters.

    GOA and Grass Roots NC have a fraction of the NRA’s budget, yet constantly send lobbying info to promote gun rights. The NRA is a paper tiger that should just shut down at this point because they do more harm than good.

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