District Judge: Gun Ban For Illegal Immigrant Unconstitutional [More]
The Obama appointee is deliberately trying to make Bruen look absurd.
The gun issue is a red herring. Criminals were removed from society.
[Via Edmund M]
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They want to make it possible for the criminal invaders to arm themselves…. while they continue to try and disarm the citizenry. This will make it possible for them to succeed in the quest to replace us intractable problematic citizens with pliable…if violent….turd world replacements.
This is going to be a tricky one.
Jefferson’s “Declaration of Independence” says “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.”
The Constitution as amended by the Bill of Rights talks about the rights of “The People”. In the infamous Dred Scot decision, SCOTUS ruled that slaves didn’t share in those rights because they were not citizens, not part of “the people.” Yet in US v Cruikshank they ruled that those same rights pre-existed the Constitution and presumably the idea of “the People of the United States.”
To make the subject even less clear, the Fourteenth Amendment’s “equal protection” language refers to “persons”, not “the People”, or citizens.
So who does the Second Amendment protection apply to, and who is excluded? Does it apply to every human on the face of the planet, some subset of people living under jurisdiction of the USA (perhaps those explicitly mentioned in USC’s militia section), no one, or something else altogether?
I can see a lot of clutching of pearls, rending of garments, and “lamentations of their women” over this one before it is sorted out, assuming it ever does get sorted out.
It’s pretty clear that the Founders were OK with disarming those stopped during the commission of a crime, which their continued presence is, and removing them from access to the citizen population.
So who does the Second Amendment protection apply to, and who is excluded?
it is more simple than that. The Bill of Rights simly rcognises and details “certain inalienable rights” which do not descend froom nor are they dependent upin government, as they are our rights baesed upn our humanity, given by God (I know He is out of favour these days, but was not then, nor should be now).
hus our right to arms coes no from government to be controlled, parcelled out, restricted, etc, but from the same God who made each of us.
This this man, however he got here, DOES indeed have a right to be armed. Cannot be taken away except by certain actins of his own doing. Use that gun to kill an innocent, you lose, not your right to the gun, but your right to freely roam about in public ubtil after yo’ve “paid your debt” to soceity for your murder. Which, if properly punished by Gpd’s sandards, he’d be executed thus his right to arms permanenty terminated, along with every other right he had.
Now, back to this border jumper: he DOES have a right to arms while he is here…. BUT since he violated the laws regarding legal entry and prsence within our botrders, hs REAL punishment is simple: take him, buy a one way plane ticket back to from where he came, and off he goes. No jail, courts, attorneys, legal, or other costs beyond the plane ticket. Thus his possession of the firearm is mooted not by it being criminal, but by his being deported for his unlawful prsence here.
SO SIMPLE. SO efficient and cheap.
His crome is not possession of a firearmm is crime is ul=nlawfully being HERE. cure that crime, the other one disappears.
WHY do these legal jokers have to make things SO complicated?
If I steal a carm happen to be carrying as I do so, then get caught driving the hot car later on, why charge me for possession of the gun wile in commission of the stolen car felony Simply lock me up for the car theft, where I won’t be able to keep my gun anyway. he possession in commission of a felony is mooted by the felony I am busy committing. Now the time in da joint should be a good long time soas to persuate me stealing cars is not worth the risk. Again the gun gets mooted. The real crime is the GTA. Deal wit that, the monster gun boogeyman goes away.